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Special report: home affairs  |  Special report: political response to September 11


Torture testimony 'acceptable'

Expert tells terror appeal hearing that MI5 would use information obtained under duress in court

Audrey Gillan
Tuesday July 22, 2003
The Guardian


An MI5 expert in terrorism has admitted that the security service would use information extracted from tortured prisoners as evidence in court.

The secret witness told a panel of judges that in spite of knowing that a victim had been tortured or had come from a country where the regime sanctioned torture, she would still consider their testimony to be relevant to security service investigations.

The admissions will add to growing public concern over the detainees at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, who were questioned by the CIA and by MI5 officers. Critics claim that the government has condoned torture by the US in its attempts to garner evidence against people it suspects of having been involved in al-Qaida or the Taliban.

The implication of the testimony has shocked human rights campaigners, as well as lawyers and the families of those detained. Article three of the Human Rights Act says "no one shall be subjected to torture or inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment".

Malcolm Smart, director of the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture, criticised the government for being party to torture, "either directly or by proxy".

He said: "Information obtained under torture is cheap and dirty information. British intelligence should regard it with the deepest suspicion. It is well-established that such information is not reliable. International law requires that courts reject evidence gathered by torture as inadmissible. If the intelligence services are cooperating in this way then they are in effect condoning, even encouraging, the torturers."

The security service expert, known only as witness A, told a hearing of the special immigration appeals commission in London: "It doesn't mean to say that because somebody is tortured that they have provided information that's not actually true."

Speaking to a panel of three judges who are hearing the appeals of 10 men detained without charge or trial since December 2001, the witness said: "We would weigh all information carefully, no matter where it came from, against our other knowledge and sources before we made an assessment, but it is still, obviously, speaking theoretically, possible that intelligence provided which may have been obtained in a way that would not be compatible with somebody's human rights could still be assessed to be reliable based on existing knowledge or because we've conducted further investigations on the basis of what they've told us."

The home secretary believes that the men appealing against detention are connected to terrorism. They are all asylum seekers or refugees. The government has said it is holding them because they cannot be returned to their country of origin as they may be tortured there.

Because the majority of these hearings are held in closed session, it is unclear how much of the evidence is reliant on that obtained under duress. Lawyers for the 10 have tried to establish the extent to which the home secretary is relying on evidence in closed session that is a result of torture but the government need not reveal this. The home secretary says it is up to the men to prove that the evidence has been obtained under torture but the men are not allowed to hear the evidence against them.

It is understood that testimony has been taken from detainees both at Bagram air base in Afghanistan and in Guantanamo Bay. Campaigners allege that torture took place in both.

A US military coroner, Elizabeth Rowse, ruled that two men from Afghanistan held at a secret CIA interrogation centre at Bagram air base had been killed under interrogation. She confirmed that the official cause of death of the two men was "homicide".

A further death at a holding facility near Asadabad is under investigation.

Witness A said the security service had no concerns about the way the Americans were gathering evidence that she was aware of. She had not been aware of any deaths in custody and would be surprised to learn that people held at Bagram had been tortured.

But US officials have previously admitted using "stress and duress" on prisoners including sleep deprivation, denial of medication for battle injuries, and forcing them to stand or kneel for hours on end with hoods on. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have denounced this as torture as defined by international treaty.

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